Response to "The price of Freedom"

The main thing that made it difficult to reply to TOFU's post (also the case for many other people), I suspect, is that he mixed two or more incompatibles.


Morality/Religion is based on strictures, rules, lines you can't cross because it's wrong. On the other hand, Freedom, besides being at its core an opposite of restrictions, is a principle. Unless they integrate it into themselves, the quintessence of principles does not include the concerns of morality. Morality & Freedom are things that are bound to clash - and compromises will have to be made on both sides for there to be any sort of balance.

Thus, I have two responses to this: A personal one and an objective one.

Objectively, it's ridiculous to use the dictionary to justify the notion that because liberty does not explicitly allow sex change, it disallows it. I could use the same argument to insinuate that because liberty does not explicitly allow potato chips, it disallows potato chips.

You say people are bound to make wrong and misinformed decisions. Converting to say, Christianity, is also a life-changing decision. So if sex change is a decision, people make wrong/misinformed decisions, and therefore it is wrong, I can by the same line of logic declare that because Christianity is a decision (unless your church forces its belief on others, which it doesn't), people make misinformed and wrong decisions, and therefore the Church is wrong. Every bloody decision to do anything is wrong.

And that's where the objectivity ends, because TOFU, when I ask you why you're against Sexual Freedom A or Sexual Freedom B, your most frequent and instinctive answer is that it's simply wrong. This is the quintessence of your entire vendetta against sexual freedoms - not HIV, not concern over population figures, nothing practical and examined in a lab. You simply believe it's wrong and that simple belief is the crux of your argument. There is no logical or scientific basis that firmly backs you up.

So there's really no logic round I can fire at you, unless I wish to go into the intricacies of the Bible (which I believe I am not qualified to comment on yet). But I'll just bring up these things:

Would I want my kids to go to school and sit next to a kid who was brought up by two fathers or two mothers? Why not? Are we still at that primal, childish stage where we judge people by their parents and not themselves?

Should I give a shit if the person driving my taxi is a guy, girl, fake guy, or fake girl? Does it hamper his driving abilities? I can just see people being out of jobs because their dick isn't real: "This company has rejected your application because your dick was found to be fake". At its quintessence, sex change is just on-the-surface. They change their sexual organs, pump in some hormones. I don't know about you but I don't judge people based on what kind of sexual organs they have.

"A screwed up 16 year old drop out son-of-a-bitch to choose to become a cheerleader? He sure would know what's best for himself." If you're picking such a bad representative for transgender people, I could go and pick some heinous Christian radical (I'm sure there are plenty) who'd also make your religion, or any other kind of group look like a pile of shit. This is another one of those one-sided stereotypes.

Do I want my child to live in a world where male and female don't matter? HELL YES. I don't want my boy to be picked on if he wants to play with Barbie dolls, because he has a cock. My girl shouldn't be stopped if she wants to make a political difference because she doesn't have a cock.

TOFU, lets say you have the qualifications to be a pilot. But what if they bar you from flying planes because women and planes are just not supposed to mix? Or if your parents were gay, and the military can't take that kind of stock in, even if you yourself disagree with your parents' decisions? I would also like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that there is still no conclusive answer to whether homosexuality, bisexuality and the like is a choice or an uncommon biological impulse.

Your view isn't wrong or even invalid, TOFU, just that all the stereotypes make it look bad.